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Boom, shake the room, Fire Nation. JLD here and welcome to Entrepreneurs on Fire brought to you by the HubSpot Podcast Network With great shows like Social Lets. Today we're pulling a timeless EOFire episode from the archives so the giveaway may not be active. And today, we’ll be breaking down how to live more Kairos moments. To drop these value bombs, I’ve brought Pete Jones into EOFire Studios. Pete is passionate about helping people be more present with God. Pete and his wife have been running their business on the road for the past two years in an RV. And today, we'll talk about how being busy is just an attitude. Why Journaling's important? How is possible to have kairos moments all the time?

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A recent episode on how to protect your business in times of crisis is a must. Listen, listen to success story wherever you get your podcasts. Pete, say What's up to Fire Nation and share something interesting about yourself that most people don't know

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What is up Fire Nation. I am so excited to be here. My name is Pete and what most people know about us and my wife and I, is that we have traveled in an RV for the past two years. What most people don't know is that for the past year of that two years, we actually bartered for the RV using our very own marketing funnels. Quick backstory, my wife and I got married and we wanted to hit the road, but we weren't sure where to begin. And as digital marketers by trade, we thought anyone can go buy an RV, but why wouldn't we at least try to do what we teach everyone to do, right? And build out a funnel. And so aside from the classic Facebook ad to funnel, we did all kinds of things from reaching out to LinkedIn, finding emails.

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And what we did is once we started to get some response, we would send that person usually an executive to a custom built page built on lead pages that had a video that we customized for that person introducing ourselves, introducing all the ways that we could help their company. We would go through and see, you know, where they needed help and then they could click a big call to action, Let's get on board. And that is how we landed a company called Creative RV based out in California, Chino, California. And they hooked us up with our first fifth wheel. And that is how the journey began.

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I mean, Fire Nation, this is why you need a why. I mean Pete Jordan, they had a why, like they said, You know what, this is what we want. And guess what they did? They filled in the blanks to get there. They back plans to get there. And you know, they may never have been inspired or they may have never been overly motivated to go through all what they did without that why. But they knew what they wanted to get to. They utilized their skills to get there. And guess what Success goal achieved? And it's there for you right now. Everybody's listening. But what is that goal? Like what is that why for you? And as I mentioned in the intro of course I told you all about Pete and what's what he has going on in his world. And you know, this audio masterclass that we're really diving deep into is how to live in more kairos moments with God.

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And I really wanna just start off because I didn't even know this was a Greek word when you know, we initially started talking about this audio masterclass. So I'm curious, I know Fire Nation is very curious. What exactly does Kairos mean?

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Yeah, that's a great question and one that we get often. So back in the day and in the day, I mean thousands of years ago, the ancient Greeks had two words for describing time. One was Chronos and one was Kairos. And most of us are familiar with Chronos cuz it's sequential, it's chronological time is attached to it. You look at your watch and you're like, oh, it's 1155, it's time for lunch or it's 6:05 PM it's time for dinner. That is Kronos. But Kairos is a qualitative, not a quantitative word for describing time. It's an opportunity, it's a moment when you really can't attach a set time to it, for example, a wedding or a graduation or even a funeral.

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It's just that moment. So that is the difference between Chronos and

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Kairos. And I do love how you broke that out to like Chronos chronological. It just makes sense like that. But a lot of us haven't heard exactly what kairos means. Maybe never knew how to pronounce it if we saw it, cuz it's not spelled very phonetically. Like a lot of Greek words are not. But I, we're gonna kind of be diving more into this Fire Nation because there's a huge opportunity for you to be living kairos moments. Not just chronological moments where you just wake up, you know, you do the same thing at the same time every single day. You're commuting to work, you're eating at lunch, you're, you know, having an afternoon nap, you're going home, you're watching the TV at eight o'clock, whatever it might be like that's chronological. What is a kairos moment?

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Exactly Like, let's get into some specifics here Pete.

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Yeah. So Kairos moments specifically for Christians back then were opportunities in which God makes it possible to do or experience something of lasting importance and significance. So translated to today's time, the same concept exists, but simply put, it's an opportunity for God to break through. And that is what a kairos moment is. It's an opportunity. It does not have a time attached to it. It's not like you can look at your clock and say it's 12 o'clock, it's, it's gonna happen now and it's the last time for the rest of your life. There are opportunities with no time attached in which God breaks through.

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This is something that we chatted about in our little pre-inteRView chat that I kinda wanna bring to the forefront here because you know, we have a whole range of people that listen to entrepreneurs on fire. We have people that are very religious, we have people that are very spiritual and we have people that you know are frankly neither of of those at this moment in time, they're on their own journey and you know, they'll get to where they wanna get to in their own time. So what exactly could we translate that for somebody who's maybe not really religious, somebody that's not super spiritual right now, but this listening and they're just like, well hey, I kind of want a Kairos moment too. Like what would that look like?

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I think oftentimes we think that there are just a few big moments in our life that we believe are going to create what we want, right? Like we're thinking that the minute we get onto this TV show, if we're going that way or if we're an actor or the minute that this business hits seven figures, it is gonna like be the culmination of everything we've ever done. Like that moment is gonna be the moment that we have made it right. But I believe that these are moments that are little by little and actually our big moments we just don't see 'em that, and it's the culmination of them all building together that we can have every day of our lives that make ultimately our lives more fulfilling instead of waiting for that moment when everything finally fell into order and then we began living life.

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Rather, it's noticing these little things that actually make us fulfilled and allow us to live a beautiful life.

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One thing I like to be realistic about cause I just really like to live in the world of reality, is that we're busy people. I'm busy on a lot of levels. You are busy Pete, on a lot of levels. People that are listening, like we have full lives, like we have family, we have friends, we have love, we have hobbies, you know, we want to exercise, you know, we wanna work, we wanna play, we wanna travel. Like we have all these things that we want to do. And so, you know, frankly we can really fill our lives up pretty quickly and pretty easily. And unfortunately, you know, that can really be a struggle for a lot of people to experience the kind of moments that you know are just waiting out there for all of us in this world. So what are some of the biggest things that you are seeing right now that are hindering us from both living and experiencing these kairos moments?

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I'm gonna go and out and throw this out there that I believe that being busy is an attitude that just simply needs to be adjusted. You are right. We have lots of things that we're going, I mean we're all business people, entrepreneurs, dads, moms, you know, husbands, wives. We are always busy. We tell ourselves that. But I believe it's just simply an attitude adjustment that we need to constantly remind ourselves of that we can actually amidst all the stuff we're doing, be super present and and experience those moments more. And one way to really be present is just to, I talk a lot about using our phone and like the pros and cons of it. Yeah. But one super, super thing, important thing to note is that a recent study by ink.com showed that on average we spend over four hours a day on our phones.

1 (9m 7s):
Come on. Which honestly I wasn't that shocked by it. I was like, okay, we do, I mean I do, I'm on my phone cause I'm working on it and we all are emailing but four hours a day, half of which were spent on social media, that's like two hours. So we are constantly spending time on our phones and I think that the phones are an amazing tool, but I also think that part of experiencing these moments and being more present is recognizing when it's time to put that phone down. Especially in relationships. Doesn't matter if it's a a business person with another business person, a colleague friend with a friend, family member with a family member. I think being present definitely requires intentionality.

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With our phone

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Fire Nation, there's this new feature that I think is called Screen Time and you'll actually send you a report on what your actual screen time is. And this might be specific for iPhones, that's what I have. But I was a little shocked. I mean my screen time wasn't through the roof when I'm here in Puerto Rico like going about my day. But man, when I was traveling for the last 90 days in Europe, it was like through the roof. I was like, am I only on my phone? I mean I'm like in Paris, I'm in Crackow, Polands, you know, I'm in some of the most beautiful places around the world, Fiji for three weeks and my screen time was through the roof and I'm like, am I like just looking down this whole time or am I actually like looking up and enjoying and appreciating the place that I'm in, the moments I'm experiencing?

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And it really did kind of give a little check, you know, of course I was doing a lot of Instagram stories because you know, that's what you know quote unquote, you know, people do when they're trying to share their lives and experiences with people that might care, like my friends, my family and youth Fire Nation. But the reality is I had to just kind of snap myself back into reality and say, hey, if I want the kind of moments that I want to experience on a trip like this, like it's not gonna happen looking through this phone, it's gonna happen. Putting the phone down, putting the phone away and just looking around and breathing and experiencing and being one with the moments. And that kind of really comes down Pete, to being more present. Now what I would love, cuz this is something you've done a lot of thinking of and you have a lot of ideas and tactics on this topic, are real practical ways to be more present.

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And let's start with some general ways because you know that's gonna hit all of the audience that we have here at Fire Nation. And then let's go more granular with your area of expertise as being more present with God as

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Well. We'll start with a more general way and I'm gonna go right back to where I was. Being conscious about phone time is so, so important, especially in relationships because relationships are what make our lives whole and and when even I've read, I've read studies after studies with phones and even having a phone face down on the table while you're out at dinner is, is you telling that person that you're with that this is still important. So the simple act of putting that in your pocket allows you to be more present in conversations. So I think just really having that consciousness about your phone, even where it is placed, even if you're not using it, let alone texting while you're with people, is an important aspect of presence.

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And I think also on the same note of just, you know, busyness, you know, kind of a lot of noise in our world, four hours a day on a phone, there's just a need to reflect more I think. I think it's easy, even for me personally, just you get to the end of a day and you just want your brain to just be done. And so you wanna scroll or hit Netflix and watch Stranger Things. I don't know what you guys watch, but it's just, it's just nice to just be like, okay, I'm done. But just even developing the habit at the end of each day, which I've been working on, take 10 minutes just to go through your day, What was good, what was bad, what could use improvement? Where did I struggle the most? Where was I the most happiest? And just ask yourself a few basic questions to just start, Get your mind, to get your mind thinking about what, what happened today to reflect on it.

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Cuz I think that Art of Reflection is kind of lost in in our world. And then lastly, I'll tag on there, our friends over at Alabaster Co, they just put out an awesome blog post called The Art of Joint, The Art of Journaling in an Age of Noise. And it's just another good reminder that kind of goes back to the reflection point of writing things down. Just to help you remember, you know, we have, we're humans, we have a lot of emotions, like just to get them out on paper sometimes is a really good way to start sifting through things, recognizing what's working and what's not, and ultimately to improve upon tomorrow.

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So before we move on to the next section, which is gonna be being more present with God, I just kinda wanna step back Fire Nation and be honest with you right now. And I will tell you, if you and I are having a conversation sometime like at a conference, at an event, or we just kind of cross paths for any way shape and form and during our conversation, like your phone beeps and you reach into your pocket or you grab it from the table and you look at that message like, I shut down like I'm done with this conversation and I'm not gonna lie, Like I'm not trying to be like, oh man, like I'm gonna be such a hard on, you know, a hard guy on this because of X, Y, Z. It's just like you've just proven to me that you're not here with me experiencing these moments. You have something that's, you know, tugging at your subconscious.

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You know, you'd rather look and see what social media item you were just tagged in or what text message you got from X, Y, Z or for whatever it might be. And people have a million excuses like, oh, you know, if I don't answer my wife in so many minutes, like I get in trouble. Like BS have a real conversation, you know, with your wife and let her know that you know, hey, if I'm having a conversation, I'm gonna get back to you as soon as that conversation's done, but I'm not going to ruin these moments I have with people for X, Y, or Z. And of course the scenarios are flipped in all the different ways. So I personally will shut down and I'm just gonna be like, Yep, yep, okay, well great chat. And then I'm gonna walk away from that conversation and people wanna be like, Wow, John just kind of really got short there and, and I did because I just am not going to invest what I consider my very valuable time.

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Just like your time is very valuable Fire Nation in a conversation where somebody's half in the door, half out the door, not present, not in that moment. So let's move into the next section of this and really dive deep here Pete.

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Yeah, for sure. So let me, let me kick off this section by asking this question. When it comes to being present, would LeBron James send a quick tweet before taking a game-winning free throw in game seven against the finals of, against the Golden State Warriors? Not a

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Chance, Not a

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Chance, exactly. When he looked down, grab, Oh, real quick, let me just, lemme just hit up Dwayne Wade real quick. Yo Dwayne about to hit this, I'm gonna come down to Miami next. Would he do that? Of course not. He is focused on taking the biggest shot of his life to come back in that series and win the championship. And that just goes to say being present with God in our opinion, is that important? It's, it's an amazing opportunity to come before him and spend time. So we have the four Ps of being present.

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Ooh, let's do

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It. Yeah. So the four Ps of being present with God, the first one is pray everyone prays differently, but the most important thing is to come before him and pray. And I think this is just a good way to get your mind going, you know, in the right direction just to pray for, to get rid of the distractions that are all around us when we're waking up in the morning. And to the LeBron James example, if you wake up in the morning and you're going to spend time with God or whatever you do in your devotion time and you're going from scrolling on Instagram, looking at Kanye West and Kim Kardashian to a Bible app, there's a lot of things still going on in your mind that you need to get rid of. So just praying to clear your mind there is super, super helpful. The next thing we've talked about this already is to put the phone down in a way.

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Get rid of that phone, put it in a different room. If you use an app on your phone to read something, then read it, but then put it down, get it outta the way. It's the same application here. You gotta just put that away for a little bit to be completely focused on what you're doing. Number three is to pick a place, Pick a place. It could be a closet, it could be in your car, it could be at a certain bench in your park, it doesn't matter. But being intentional about the place you go to is super important. It's, it's this illustration I use when I was in high school playing soccer. You know, as high schoolers we have all kinds of emotions and there's all kinds of things going on, but the minute you step foot between those light white lines, it's game time.

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Nothing outside of those white lines exist. And it's the same way when you pick a place, you're going there as soon as you arrive, you're there for one thing and that's just to be with God. And as soon as you leave, you can go on with your day. But that place is just setting an attention. And number four is preparation. So it's bringing a pen, a paper, anything else that might be useful and it's having an expectant heart to experience these Kairos moments. So those are the four Ps of being present, Pray, put phone down, pick a place and prepare

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Fire Nation. If you're not willing to go through this process, pray or be present in that moment, put away distractions, pick a place to actually do that and then prepare. Have some preparation like you're not really going to have these kairos moments we're talking about and we have a lot coming up after the Break Fire Nation, we'll be talking about why journaling is incredibly important in our digital age and some other incredibly exciting things you are not gonna miss as soon as we get back or not going to want to miss as soon as we get back from thanking our sponsors ready to ditch your subpar podcast listening app and download an app that has every feature you want and need with more great features being added all the time.

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I mean obviously I've self-published now four journals and I'm a big proponent of, of journaling. I truly believe it's a game changer. My audience has shown up in massive ways and supported my journal launches. I mean, with the Freedom Journal we did $453,000 in just 33 days for that Kickstarter campaign, which was incredibly exciting. And that was back in 2016. We continue to sell the crap out of it since then. Same with the Mastery Journal, A, you're later doing just under 300,000, the podcast journal we launched last year and then the hundred Day Gold Journal that we have. So you don't gotta convince me and you don't gotta convince Fire Nation, like Fire Nation loves, knows, and embraces journaling.

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So I wanna hear from you somebody who's created a journal as well that we're gonna talk about in a minute here. But why is journaling important in our digital day and age?

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Back to the study I was saying, with spending the four hours a day, I think on, on your phone, I think journaling is so important because it helps you to remember things better. There was actually a study that was further produced kind of along the same lines that men who read their devotions or Bible on their phone are actually less likely to retain. And that's just reading on a digital device. So when you actually start to incorporate writing things down, it's proven that it'll help keep your memory sharp and also help you to remember things better. So I think the art of memorizing is an important aspect of journal journaling, just to help our brains get that, you know, that muscle flex that they desperately need when we're scrolling four hours a day on our phones.

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Another thing that you definitely would know, John, is that, you know, journaling just helps your, your mood, it helps your emotions, it it actually, there's, when you start to write down things, especially things you're grateful for, it can increase your endorphins and makes you happy. And so this is just another super, it's not really that difficult. No one's there to see you. Even if you just write down three things that, you know, five minute journal style that make you happy today, that's just gonna help boost your, your mood and also just re reducing stress, as I mentioned, I think big

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Time,

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Yeah, we, we get caught up in our head, we have a whole different world in our head that we're even talking about. So just like blabbing that down is amazing. And actually a, something that I learned, I started doing, I don't know if you've heard of it, John, it's called Morning Pages.

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I have heard of it, yeah.

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Yeah. And it's really, so like the first thing you do when you wake up, you kind of like, it's a way to reset your, your mind and it's for writers, but it helps with me. You have three blank pieces of paper and you just write whatever you want. And I'm talking like I, I, I had a terrible night's sleep and I have to go to the dentist at 10 30 and my wife cooked a horrible meal last night and it's just like getting these thoughts out there and cleaning. Hopefully she doesn't listen to that part, but hopefully it gets your mind clear and ready to go and you, it's just a really, it's been an awesome way actually to get into work cuz you kind of just like spit out everything and then you're like, right, let's get into it. So the morning journaling helps with

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That. Jordan, you're an amazing cook, whatever Pete says, you're an amazing cook. So Fire Nation, I hope you just kind of step back and you're recognizing the power of journaling. I mean, I wouldn't have been doing it all these years if I didn't see direct results in first creating and now maintaining a seven figure a year net profit business. It comes down to me doing all the things that Pete just shared, bringing that to my world in journaling, that consistent journaling is so, so key. And what I wanna really talk about now, Pete, is a project that you are frankly on fire about the Kairos Journal. So tell Fire Nation, why'd you create this journal and how's it gonna help us be more present?

1 (24m 32s):
Yeah, right. Well super exciting. This has been, it's only been three months. We're currently live on Kickstarter, but the Kairos Journal. Yeah, the Kairos Journal was created first out of my own need. So I had been, I had a structure to my devotional journaling for the past two years that I had been using. But after Jordan, and I just had our first child this year, shout out to Ellie Grace, six months old, almost boo. Yeah. I had this crazy thing happen to me called Dad Brain. If there's moms listening, I'm sure you can relate to the mom brain and hopefully some dads can relate. But I started forgetting everything, everything.

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And at that time I was not journaling, so I ended up going back to this kind of baseline structure that I had and I just started hashing everything out in my mind. I didn't even share it with Jordan until I was like, wow, this is a real thing. No kidding. And after testing and revising and bringing people in, we came out with the Kairos Journal

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Fire Nation, this is what I'm talking about. We go back to your why, like what is your why? Like what gets you fired up in the morning, What do you wanna work towards? What do you wanna bring to the world? What's the mis, the mission, the message, the voice that you want to be sharing? And guess what, Pete had a, had a mission, had a message, had a voice he wanted to get out. He's doing it right now via his Kickstarter campaign for the Kairos Journal. So let's talk a little bit about that now. So you have this Kickstarter campaign, you know, it's rocking and rolling right now. What do you really wanna tell Fire Nation about getting involved learning more? How can we check out this project you have going on?

1 (26m 14s):
Yeah, I will. I'll drop the link in. We're actually for all the Fire Nation listeners daily Kairos.com/fire. We're gonna give you guys a freebie. Whoa. And we have, yeah, it's gonna, not a free journal, but a freebie. That's gonna be a surprise on there. And also we have a special for you guys for the journal itself that's gonna be limited to only Fire Nation listeners, so cool. So go on there and check it out. It's gonna be time sensitive, but you guys are gonna love it. So you can go on the Kickstarter and check it out. And you can also go to daily Kairos.com/fire, like I said, to learn more about the project and just joining us on Facebook.

1 (26m 56s):
And we're very active live on in our groups and just talking and chatting and people sharing. I think that's the coolest thing about community is people sharing these moments with other people, encourages others to share moments back. And it's a super awesome thing to see.

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Now let's go ahead and definitely carefully spell out the word Kairos for Fire Nation, because I would never have been able to spell it just by hearing the word. So we we're gonna obviously have it in the show notes Fire Nation. So if you go to EOFire.com and you type Pete in the search bar, this episode's gonna show up, of course with killer show notes, it's gonna link directly to daily kairos.com/fire. But go ahead and spell that out for us. Pete

1 (27m 35s):
Kairos is spelled K A I R O S.com. K A I R O S.com. That's how you spell Kairos. And the whole thing will be daily. kairos.com/fire

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Daily kairos.com/fire. Go check it out for the freebie to just see what the entire project is, what it has going on. Of course, with all Kickstarter campaigns, they have cool rewards too. So if you want things above and beyond the journal, you can check out what they're offering there. And Pete, we talked about a lot of really cool stuff today, but take it home for us, like what's one final takeaway you wanna make sure our listeners really get from our entire conversation today?

1 (28m 14s):
Yeah, I just want you guys to realize that it's possible all the time to have these kairos moments. It's not some vague, mysterious thing. I think that by being intentional and being present, we are all able to have these every single day. And I truly believe it'll transform your

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Life Fire Nation daily Kairos.com/fire. It'll be linked up on the show notes page, Christmas is coming. This could be an amazing gift for a loved one for yourself. I'm sure they're gonna have 2, 4, 6, 10 packs, all that jazz. So definitely go on over and check out what they have going on there. And Christmas is coming. Great gifts is the gifts of daily kairos moments. And you know, Fire Nation, you're the average of the five people you spend the most time with and you've been hanging out with PJ and JLD today. So keep up the heat and head over to efi.com. As I mentioned earlier, just put Pete in the search bar so the links for everything will come up that we talked about.

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And Pete, I just wanna say thank you brother for sharing your truth, for following your vision and for sharing your message with the world and for doing all of that with Fire Nation today on of course, Entrepreneurs on Fire. For that we salute you and we will catch you on the flip side.

1 (29m 25s):
Right on. Thank you, John. Thank you. Fire Nation.

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