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Boom. Shake the room, Fire Nation. JLD here and welcome to Entrepreneurs on Fire brought to you by the HubSpot Podcast Network. With great shows like I Digress. Today, we're pulling a timeless EOFire episode from the archives so the call to action may or may not be active, and we'll be diving into whether you have a winners or wine's mentality to drop these value bombs. I brought Johnny Wimbrey into EOFire Studios. Johnny inspires people to overcome adversity and achieve greatness. He left behind a world of crime and drugs to 18 in terms of life around and created immense success for himself and others. In today, Fire Nation we’ll talk about winning or losing, being a choice, how you don't have to consult with your past in order to determine your future.

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And if you're gonna act like everyone in anyone, you're gonna become like everyone in any everyone and that just makes you average Fire Nation and so much more. And a big thank you for sponsoring today's episode goes to Johnny and our sponsors. Looking for a place where you can experience live interactions with your audience? Then Speakeasy is for you. I'm loving creating daily content on Speakeasy and I know you will too. Visit getspeakeasy.com to download the app and go live today. Being Boss hosted by Emily Thompson is brought to you by the HubSpot Podcast Network and is an exploration of what it means and what it takes to be boss as a creative business owner.

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One recent episode on the Five Tips for Better Work-Life balance is a must. Listen. Listen to Being Boss wherever you get your podcasts. Johnny say what's up to Fire Nation and share something interesting about yourself that most people don't know.

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Thank you so much. I appreciate that Fire Nation. It is an honor to be in your presence right now with the Great John. And listen, something that most people don't know about me, most people don't know that I went to acting school. I have an associate's degree in acting theater.

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Something I definitely did not know, but it's something I can definitely tell would help any aspiring entrepreneur in their journey for just a variety of reasons. I mean, just putting yourself out there outta your comfort zone. You know, learning how to have stage, presence, I mean all these things, fire nations. So it's just like all these things that we've done throughout our lives, you just honestly never know how they're gonna impact what we're gonna do in our future. And I know a lot of you are just really fired up about this masterclass, Finding True Wealth. Do you have a winners or wins mentality? And of course Johnny's gonna drop value bombs on all these topics today. Let's just start off with the phrase, winning or losing is a choice. You believe in that phrase, Johnny expound upon that?

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Absolutely. It's something that I kind of adopted in in my early twenties. I'm 44 now. It's funny because Les Brown personally called me when I said this out loud. He said, Johnny, what do you mean that, you know, winning is a choice and so is losing. And I said, Les, you know, Les is my mentor, so he's about to beat me up a little bit. I said, Les, I totally understand where you're coming from, but just hear me out. Hear me out on this. I believe that winning is a choice and so is losing. But my definition of winning may be different than most individuals. I believe that winning, you know, sometimes people say that, you know, winning is coming in first place. And to me, sometimes that can be a very shallow definition of winning.

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To me, winning is staying in the race. If you start a race, you finish it. So refusing to finish a race as a choice. So that makes it an option. So when you subscribe to winning or you subscribe to losing, it's a choice. We don't, it may hurt to accept that, but it's the truth. If we have an opportunity to win, but we choose to lose, that means winning and losing are both choices. And he laughs at me and he said, You got me,

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Les Brown doesn't get got very often. So let me just say Johnny, a way to make it happen. Definitely love that guy. I mean, his laugh is just so contagious. Fire Nation, if you ever have the opportunity to see Les Brown speak from stage, take it. Believe me, take it now. You're a believer, Johnny, and the fact that where you come from doesn't determine where you are going. So break this down for us.

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I'm a firm believer in that, you know, my earliest memory in life was living in a batter of women's shelter, made a lot of bad decisions as a youth, even had a felony arrest as a teenager. Just made a lot of bad decisions in life. But I believe that, you know, you don't have to really consult your past to determine your future, although your past makes up everything you are in terms of your character. But I don't have to turn around and consult my past to determine my future. And the bottom line is where I come from. It doesn't have to dictate where I'm going. And I believe you know that, you know, people look at life like it's a hand of cards. And the cards that you are dealt are the hands you have to play for the rest of your life. And that's alive from the pits of hell. You could turn that hand in right now and choose to change or turn your life in an entirely different direction and take control and start the new chapter literally right now.

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I love that phrase that people look at the hand, they're dealt and they're like, Well, this is what I got. I got a tour clubs, I got a four spades, I got a seven to Diamonds. Like this is it. This is my life. Let me just do this. And Fire Nation, guess what? A lot of people, they're gonna play those hands out. But let's be honest with it, our audience, Fire Nation is that you're listening to this podcast right now. Like you have sought out advice, you have sought out inspiration, motivation, direction, content that's gonna help you move forward. So you realize that yeah, you may be looking at some cars that aren't awesome right now. You may not have a straight or a flesh or a full house right now in your hands. Guess what? Turn that hand in.

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It's never too late to start with a fresh hands. I mean, I was just talking in my WhatsApp group, my college buddies today, and literally, this is my friends, He's been my friend for 22 years now. He's 40 years old. He's been the FBI for like 15 years. Great dude likes his job, you know, he likes it. But he made the comment, he's like, Man, I wish I wasn't stuck as an FBI agent making government wages and having no freedom over my life. And I just responded back to him. I'm like, Brother, every day is a brand new day. Like that's sunk cost fallacy that so many people have. And Johnny, you've seen this. I almost went down that path. I went to a semester of law school. I almost convinced myself that that semester of law school meant that I should just finish law school, which would of course would've meant I should've just become a lawyer, which would've meant I probably would've been miserable for 30, 40 years.

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Practicing law like that. Sunk cost fallacy, fire nation, it ends every single day that you wake up and say, You know what? My past isn't gonna dictate my future. My present is gonna dictate that future. So I'm, I love that huge believe in what you're saying. I love, Let's talk about our problems because you have this phrase, How can we talk to our problems, which I've actually never heard of before. So what do you mean by

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That? I'd actually talk about this in my book from the hood to doing good. Anybody could talk about their problems. And if you're going to act like everyone and anyone, then you're gonna become everyone and anyone. And that makes you average. And you gotta remember that average is the very top of the bottom. Let me repeat that. Average is the very top of the bottom. And that's where you want to be and that's where you're going to be, is because of your thinking. And you gotta understand, if you talk about your problems just like everyone else, then you are invited into the world with everyone else. And that makes you average. What I teach my clients when I'm coaching individuals as this, stop telling everybody about your problems and tell your problems about you.

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You know? And, and, and this is, this is no joke. I think I was maybe 20, 20 years old and I was getting involved with the, you know, sales industry, health and life insurance. And I really needed to know how to sell. And I remember someone giving me, giving me Tony Robbins tapes, giving you my age, Tony, and they were old when I got 'em. Tony Robbs tapes. And, and he, he just kind of said something that sparked something inside me. It wasn't those words, but it made me feel like that I can't talk about my problems to anyone because I'm feeding those problems. So then I said to myself, Listen, when if I can't talk about my problems to everyone else, let me talk to my problems. And I remember saying, I looked in the mirror one day and I said, Okay, batter women's shelter.

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Is that all you got? You know, my father was an abusive alcoholic. Is that all you got? I was born and raised in the hood, had a felony arrest. There are a lot of things in my life that I participated in and it is my fault. But there are also things that have happened in my life. It wasn't my fault. I had no control of being homeless as a child, had no control over that. So let me talk to it. And I literally began to speak as if I were, I was talking down to my problems, which made me move up. So the bottom line is, anyone can talk about their problems. And I've mentored individuals who were in their twenties who were millionaires in their thirties, and they were broke when I met them.

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And part of the process was doing self-inventory. And one of those processes is talking to your problems instead of about your problems. And what it does is it really elevates you above the problem.

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Average is the top of the bottom. I hope you absorb that fire nation. I mean, when somebody asks you how's your life and you respond with some version of average, how about you start saying, Oh, my life is the top of the bottom. And then see how long you remain, quote unquote average, because you're gonna wanna start striving for more of them. If you start saying, My life's the top of the bottom, you're gonna want to start doing a little bit more. So use those words powerfully. And I actually wanna go back to the phrase now, Johnny winning or losing is a choice. Give me a real world example of how you, you implemented this in your life. And then I'd love an example of how maybe one of your favorite clients or somebody who you've impacted has imp has utilized that in their life.

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Winning and losing is a choice. And if I put myself in an atmosphere when I walk into the room, one or two things are gonna happen. When I walk into that room, it's going to increase me or it's going to decrease me. I'm responsible for recognizing and identifying in the now anything that has a possibility of pulling me back. I don't believe there's an in between. Either I'm walking into my destiny or I'm walking away from it. Either I'm walking into increase or I'm walking away from increase. So there are moments in my life and you know, you just gotta know where I'm from. You know, I was raised around some really rough things coming up. You know, I got a brother serving 40 years in prison right now and you know, he was a, and, and as a teenagers we were doing the exact same thing, different different parts of the city, but the exact same thing.

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And the only difference between me and him is I didn't get caught. So once I identified with the fact that listen, I am on the path of heading to where my brother is, and that is a losing decision if I can say that and I can recognize it, but I still participate in it. So it's not just recognizing the fact that you're making a losing decision, you're walking in a losing direction. The real correction is identifying it and participating in your own rescue. See, most people won't participate in their own rescue. I participated in my rescue, not because I'm better than my brother, not because I don't deserve to be where he is. I participated in my rescue because of God's grace and mercy and say, Listen, here's another chance.

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And that was a winning decision. Me walking away and I'm gonna share, I'm gonna share something with you, but really, you know, it's about you. You just said something that really, really shook me. You said you went to law school and you stopped law school and you started walking into your destiny. And somebody listening to this could challenge it and say, okay, so did John Lee, did he, did he quit law school? No, he didn't quit law school. He started his destiny. See, people think the word quit is means losing. It doesn't you you, you have to quit something to start something. So I'm gonna use your example. You didn't lose when you walked away from law school, you didn't quit as a quitter.

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You quit dancing to somebody else's music and you started dancing to your own music, which was your destiny of where you say you want to be in life. And to me that was a perfect example of someone who could have continued to lose and work for a title that they no longer desired. But the whole world would respect your title. But you would hate yourself. Congratulations for making that winning decision.

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I mean, Fire Nation, I can't put that any better, but I'm gonna just say this, sure. Because I think it's so powerful. When I said no to law school, I was saying yes to all of the other opportunities that awaited me. I didn't know which one of those opportunities I was going to actually end up choosing. I went out there and tasted a lot of different things and of course ended up launching Entrepreneurs on Fire back in 2012 and built into what it is today. I love it. But when I said no to law school, I was saying yes to everything else that was possible out there. If I had said yes to law school, hey, that's okay for some people and they're gonna go off in that journey and do their thing. But by saying yes to law school, that would've been me saying no to everything else.

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Cause it was all consuming. It was all that I could do. Wow. Wow. So that's when you say no to something, you're actually saying yes to the possibility of everything else. Even if you don't know that thing. And I'm sure this can resonate with you, Johnny, but one of my favorite quotes is Martin Luther King's quote, You don't have to see the whole staircase to take that first step. You don't need to see the whole staircase. So I didn't know what my staircase looked like, Johnny. I said no to law school. I took one step away from law school and guess what happened? Something else opened up and then something else opened up. And I kept walking forward. And it wasn't immediate. It was two years later that I had the inspiration to launch Entrepreneurs on Fire. I made a lot of mistakes, had a lot of failures and a lot of struggles in between those two years.

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But guess what? All of it led to what I now have today, which is a business that's majority seven figures for five years in a row through Love It. Entrepreneurs on Fire and Fire Nation. John is an inspiration. He has so much more to share. As soon as we get back from thinking our sponsors, we all know how important engagement with our audience is as creators. Finding effective ways to provide value while also being able to interact in real time is a challenge. But now there's Speakeasy . Speakeasy is an app that allows you to organize your own live talk show. It's made by creators for creators and is uniquely built to help you monetize your audience. Whether you use it for live podcasting, show recordings, or hosting premium content, people can subscribe to.

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Learn how HubSpot can help your business grow better at hubspot.com. So Johnny, we're back and one of my favorite phrases that you say is be a student for life share with Fire Nation. What you mean by that?

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You know, one of my favorite quotes, and this is a Johnny Warby quote, Normally I wouldn't go outta my way to say that, but I want you to know that it, my voice impacted me on this particular subject and is, you know, you gotta surround yourself around the thinking that outthinks you. And that quote came from fear. Now listen to what I just said. You've gotta surround yourself around the thinking that outthinks you. You know, my favorite book is the Bible and the Bible says that in the multitude of counsel there is safety. So if there, you gotta read it backwards sometimes. If in the multitude of counsel there's safety, then what is it not saying?

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Well, where you are not having counsel, where you're not being coached, where you're not being mentored, you're in danger. So you have to be a student for life. Learning for life is not an option. I can learn from a four year old child if I watch them long enough. And here's my thing, I never want to arrive. I always want to be on my way. And you always will be on your way unless you never see yourself as a student. At some point a student just simply says, there's more that I don't know yet and I can never, I can never arrive beyond that statement.

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There's always something more. And that hunger and that craving for more. Just like when you are, when you're a child, you know John Lee, nobody ever had to send you to a counseling session to start the process of wanting to learn how to walk.

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That's

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True. There was something inside you that said, Hey, if mommy could do it, daddy could do it. My big brother, my grandparents. If auntie can do it, then me too. And you just start this process of starting to push yourself up, pull yourself up on the couch without permission. That is the hunger of the student. But you once heard, like we've all heard, Born to Win program, to fail, get back to the nine month old you that didn't know that falling was an option, or failing was an option.

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Fire nation, So many things I want to go through here because Johnny's just dropping value bomb after value bomb here. But I love that phrase specifically. I never want to arrive because fire nation, it's not this destination. And we're not like running towards this finish line. Life is a journey. Like we need to be learning every step of the way. And yes, you set goals, but when you accomplish those goals, it's a celebration. And then it's saying, okay, what is that next goal? It's not a finish line, it's continuing to push yourself as you go forward. And I love how you have that phrase, what is a student one who is always looking for something more like one who's looking to learn more? Like that's a student. And if you want something more, fire nation, if you wanna learn more, which of course you do because you're listening to our words right now, you are a student and always live in the world of being that students.

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Now accountability is critical, Johnny. So yes, how do we establish it and what is the importance of it?

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The accountability is kind of still on the same line of understanding that you're a student. And now that you understand that you're a student, you also have to understand that there has to be some type of accountability if you want to move forward and progress in life. And you know, when I was writing my book, I was maybe like 23, 24 years old and I was in high level leadership and you know, taking classes three or four times a week. And it was very high level. And I remember there's a guy named Chris Lloyd. Chris Lloyd was one of, you know, one of the students along with me. We were peers and I would share with him just things that I was working on. And then one day I, he said, Hey man, what's up? What's going on Johnny? What you know, what's new for you?

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I said, Man, listen, I just started a book. I'm writing a new book, I'm writing my first book, and he got super excited for me. And here's the thing, your accountability has to be excited for you. So when I saw his initial excitement for me, and he was older than me, a lot older than me, so I looked up to him, but when I said I'm writing a book, I saw something happen in him. So every, every week he saw me two or three times a week, Hey Johnny, how's the book going? And I would say, Good. Now months go by. And he says, Johnny, how's the book going? I say, Good. And this process really started to, you know, make me feel guilty because I could say good no matter what. And at one point I just got frustrated and I, I said, Chris, don't ask me how the book is going, going again, ask me what page I'm on.

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Ooh, I just established accountability without permission. When somebody genuinely shows you they are interested in your personal progress, allow them to hold you accountable without permission. If you tell me, like I'm not the type of person that you can say to, I wanna quit smoking, you can't say that to me because I'm gonna get genuinely excited about that and I'm gonna hold you accountable. So don't, don't ask for accountability if you don't wanna get your feelings hurt. See, when Chris asked me what page I was on, it forced me to finish my book in 30 days because I know my personality type.

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You gotta know your personality type. I need people to push my feelings. I need people to push me outta my comfort zone because you can't learn how to swim in shallow water. And you need that accountability if you ever wanna learn how to swim.

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So fire Nation, that is the exact same way it is with goals as well. Like if you're just gonna make a comment like, Hey, I wanna lose some weight, or Hey, I'm gonna write a book, or hey, like I'm gonna do X, Y, or Z, you're not doing it the smart way. Now smarts and acronym specific, measurable, attainable, relevant, time bounds, all of those parameters need to be applied. If you're going to set a smart goal, if you're going to be accountable, it's not just like, how's your book going? Good? No, it's, Hey, what page you on 1 62, You were on 1 61 last week or last month. Like, what's the deal brother? Like? That's how you make that a smart goal. You get specific, you make it measurable, you make it attainable.

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You know, this isn't some crazy thing you're not gonna accomplish. Yeah, it's gonna be relevant though. And of course number of pages, writing a book is very relevant and then it's gonna be time bound. What is that time Limit yourself imposing. And you love this phrase, eat, sleep, and breathe winning possibilities. Give us some real world examples of doing just

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That. Every day I wake up and my wife will tell you this, you know, she, she really brought it to my attention. She said, Every day you wake up, you're looking for increase. Like I'm looking for areas in my life to win today. I don't prepare to win, I just stay on the path of winning. It doesn't make me perfect. I'm gonna drop the ball. And to me, here's, here's a perfect example of a winning possibility. I have no problem admitting to Fire Nation right now. Johnny Wimbrey is going to drop the ball again. Johnny Wimbrey is going to make a stake. Again, I know me, just like you know you.

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But again, winning is not drop. I mean, losing is not dropping the ball. Winning doesn't mean you never dropped the ball. Winning means I know I'm gonna make mistakes, I know I'm going to drop the ball, but here's where the winner is. I guarantee you, Fire Nation, I give every single one of you permission to hold me accountable. If you see me drop the ball and not get back up, I give you permission to call me out, to email me, to call my office and say, Johnny, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You are on fire in Nation. And you said, if you drop the ball, you are guaranteed to pick it back up. Yes, because that is eating and sleeping and breathing, the winning possibilities.

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Whatever you entertain the most, that's what you're going to do. That's what you're going to manifest in life. And if I entertain the possibilities, I'm going to look for more possibilities. But if I entertain obstacles, I'm going to only focus on obstacles. Why? Because whatever you focus on expands. So my example is, every day I wake up looking for possibilities. When I know that the majority of the world every day wakes up looking at the obstacles. It's like I said before, if you talk to your obstacles, you're going to manifest more obstacles. But if you, and I'm, I'm sorry, if you talk to other people about obstacles, if you are hunting for obstacles, you're gonna manifest obstacles.

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That's why I'm always looking for the opportunities. I talk down to my problems. I don't my problems, don't. I talk down to them. So eating and sleeping and breathing, winning possibilities, wake up every day looking for increase. And if you keep it that simple, that's that first step that Martin Luther King was talking about.

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Watch out Johnny ‘cause Fire Nation will hold you accountable, brother, because they listen. They're going to make sure that you keep up that promise. And Johnny, I wanna do this ‘cause you've just been sharing a lot of value drop and a lot of value bombs. Let me just give you the stage for a second. All the things that you shared here, very valuable. What's the one thing you wanna really make sure our listeners get from everything that we've talked about today?

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The most absolutely most important thing is you've got to be under the umbrella of information that's pushing you into your destiny. Like fire nation, surround yourself around the thinking that outthinks, you understand that every moment of your life you're gonna face a friend or a foe. And if you, if you listen to what I'm about to say in the next 30 seconds, I promise you this, this, this will hold you account accountable in the now. And the trick is the now, it's always the now. The more you can make decisions that are in your best interest in the now, that creates that winning step.

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A faux is a person, place, or thing that's pulling you away from your destiny. It's pulling you away from your destiny. A friend is a person, place, or a thing that's pushing you towards your destiny. So if you can create a mindset of looking at people, places, and things as a friend or a faux that puts you in the driver's seat, but you've gotta participate in your own rescue. Once you identify something that's a faux and you still tolerate that, then you now are your own

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Fire nation tolerate no foes. So Johnny, let's do this, man. How can we find out more about you? How can we connect with you on a deeper level? What's a call to action to fire nation?

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Listen, every shape, warmer fashion, I would love to stay in touch with you. I give you permission to hold me accountable. If you see me post something on social media, if you see me saying things that's not in alignment with my message, please hold me accountable and call me out. You can always find me at Wimbrey - Wimbrey, W I M B R E Y on every most on every social media platform is at CoachJohnny.com. I'm currently right now looking for people who wanna build their brand, who do wanna become professional speakers, professional auditors, people who wanna become published authors. Right now I'm interviewing and I am looking for people to co-author a book with myself, Les Brown and one other individual.

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We're looking for what we call co-star authors. Go to CoachJohnny.com. If you're looking for a business mentor, just leave us your information at CoachJohnny.com. We interview everyone. It doesn't guarantee you that I'm gonna work with you, but I promise you every single person will be interviewed, Coach johnny.com. If you wanna become an author, just drop that in the information. If you're looking to become a professional speaker, let me know that too. If you're looking for a business coach, somebody to hold you accountable in the now, leave that information as well. So I'm giving you very generic. I'm not selling you anything, I'm not offering you anything. I'm just saying, if you leave us your information, you will get an interview, you will get an interview, Nothing's guaranteed, but I guarantee the interview will happen. CoachJohnny.com.

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Go there now. Thank you, Fire Nation.

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One of the more powerful CTAs we've had in a long time. CoachJohnny.com, that's Coach J O H N N Y.com. Yes. So get on over there, put your name in, have that interview and see what transpires. See what unfolds. See the opportunity that you are gonna create for yourself by doing just that. And of course, Fire Nation, you wanna check out Johnny's book From The Hood To Doing Good. Follow him on social media @Wimbrey and Fire Nation. You're the average of the five people you spend the most time with and you've been hanging out with JW and JLD today to keep up the heats. And Johnny, thank you for sharing your truth, brother with Fire Nation today.

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For that we salute you and we'll catch you on the flip side. Hey, Fire Nation, today's value a bomb content was brought to you by Johnny, and if you're ready to rock your very own podcast, well I have a free podcasting course for you where I'll teach you how to create and launch your podcast for free. Freepodcastcourse.com. I'll catch you there or I'll catch you on the flip side, looking for a place where you can experience live interactions with your audience, then Speakeasy is for you. I'm loving creating daily content on Speakeasy and I know you will too.

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