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Dan Schawbel is a New York Times bestselling author, entrepreneur, keynote speaker, and researcher. His new book is called Back to Human: How Great Leaders Create Connection in the Age of Isolation.

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1) Being collaborative and sharing your ideas with your team orchestrates better relationships and new, creative ideas that can take your company further.

2) We get better together. That’s why community is very important.

3) Technology has created an illusion of connection, when in reality, our overuse and misuse of it has made us feel more isolated and lonely. Use technology as a bridge to more interaction, not a barrier.

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Today’s Audio MASTERCLASS: Get Back to Human: How to Build a Powerful Network, Team, and Community with Dan Schawbel

[01:26] – Dan shares something about himself that most people don’t know.

[03:00] – Technology should be a bridge for human connection, not a barrier. How do you build that bridge?

More and more people are working remotely, and that gives us freedom and flexibility.
If people don’t see and hear you, the relationship is not the same; therefore, people are more likely to quit their job or go work for another company.
We can be around so many people, and yet be around no one at the same time. People are physically there but not mentally, spiritually, and emotionally. The more time you spend looking at your screen, the less time you actually look at the person.
Being collaborative and sharing your ideas with your team orchestrates better relationships and new, creative ideas that can take your company further.

[08:42] – Dan shares a story about when he actually built a bridge with influencers.

He had interviewed Richard Branson and Chris Anderson in person, whom he had interviewed before over the phone.
It’s easier to interview people that you’ve interviewed before, but there’s a different intimacy when you’re actually with them and you can play off with how they would respond in a way you can’t do on the phone.
People get tricked into thinking they are an extrovert because the content they create leads to opportunities, so they are being viewed as an extrovert because they are confident on stage.
Building a bridge with these influencers starts with an email, and then, once the interviews are approved, that would be either through a phone call or in person.
If you’re an introvert, don’t be afraid to use tools for that initial interaction – find the people you want to meet and reach out. Then, try your best to leverage those introductions and connections to have a phone call or a personal meeting.

[17:26] – Why should we not be selfish with our knowledge; why should we share what we know?

We get better together. That’s why community is very important.
The average relevancy of a learning scale is only five years. So, in order to keep up with the speed of business and the economy, we have to rely on each other, learn from others, and help each others’ learning and development – it will help us stay relevant and be more successful.
Any time you read an article or learn a new scale, and you know that it would benefit someone on your team, automatically share it.
Make sure that within your team you’re all learning together, because that will help close gaps within your company and your team, and allow everyone to rise up together.

[21:14] – Many people think that making friends at work is a potential waste of time. What is Dan’s opinion on this?

Work is the work you do and who you do it with.
Work can be bearable even if you’re not doing what you love, as long as you have a big support system and you have a healthy work environment with a trustworthy manager.
Technology has tricked us into thinking we have an abundance of friends.
It’s very hard to build a friendship if all you’re doing is talking about work.

[26:24] – A timeout to thank our sponsors, HubSpot, Thinkific, and ZipRecruiter!

[29:23] – Why do we need to focus on our own fulfillment first before we help others find their own?

If you’re happy and fulfilled, you’ll know where you want to go – you have a purpose, you’re excited to go to work everyday. That positivity and confidence will be reflected in your team and how they feel about work. You’ll inspire them to be able to figure their own stuff out.
Focus on your own fulfillment so that you can be a role model and inspire those people around you, regardless of what type of situation you’re in.

[31:18] – What’s one thing that we can do today to take a step towards our own fulfillment as entrepreneurs?

It’s about self reflection. Ask the people who are closest to you what they think you are excelling at, and what leadership attributes they believe you have. Getting feedback is not always bad. It’s good because you may not realize certain things.
Taking time away from what you do can help you with the reflection; it can help you understand who you are and what you want to do.

[33:09] – How do you create a new habit?

Start small—something that’s more manageable.
One small habit at a time makes it more manageable, and the more you can scale and add on to the next, accomplish more, and become more efficient the better!

[35:15] – How do we remove a bad habit?

First, you have to be aware that it is an issue.
Then, have a punishment the next time you do it.

[36:51] – Why we should lean into who we are?

The more you are who you are, the more authentic you can show up for others.

[38:31] – Dan’s parting piece of guidance

Technology has created an illusion of connection, when in reality, our overuse and misuse of it has made us feel more isolated and lonely. Use technology as a bridge to more interaction, not a barrier.
Realizing that half of our day is being spent on technology and the other half isn’t – that’s really important. If we can spend more time building genuine connections and leveraging technology the right way, then they can work together to improve our lives and make us more productive and successful as a result.
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