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Boom, shake the room, Fire Nation, JLD here, and welcome to entrepreneurs on fire brought to you by the HubSpot podcast network with great shows like my first million stories about companies that grew from nothing into legit businesses today, we'll be focusing on why entrepreneurs need multiple streams of passive income to drop these value bombs. I rushed Chris Miles on the mic. He's the Anti-Financial Advisor, teaches entrepreneurs and professionals how to get their money working for them today. He's an author and also podcast host of The Chris Miles Money Show. And today foundation we'll be sharing why you need to stop listening to traditional money advice from the media and advisors, what you need to be financially free.

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Two streams of income that we need to free ourselves from our business and so much more. When we get back from thanking our sponsors, the HubSpot Podcast Network is the audio destination for business professionals who seek the best education and inspiration on how to grow a business. Whether you're looking for marketing sales, service, or operational guidance, the HubSpot podcast network hosts have your back. Listen, learn and grow with the HubSpot Podcast Network at HubSpot.com/podcastnetwork. Get your focus back, sleep better and block out the unhealthy effects of blue lights. With BluBlox, blue light blocking glasses. Get 20% off by going to BluBlox.com/fire or enter code fire 20 at checkout that's BLUBLOX.com/fire for 20% off, or just use the code fire 20 caress say what's up to Fire Nation.

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And what's something you believe about becoming successful that most people disagree

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With. Yeah. What up Fire Nation? Hey, the thing I disagree with is you got to hustle your entire life to be successful, right? It's always about work 180 hours a week and all that kind of stuff and get out there and grind. And you know, the thing is I've learned is that you definitely gotta be consistent. You gotta have put an effort, especially up front, but man, you do not have to hustle and work 5 billion hours a week to be successful. It's about consistency and doing the right things, not just working your tail off

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Could not agree more. That is my philosophy as well. I will say you go through seasons in life. In my opinion, I had to work my little booty off a lot of hours at the beginning of my business to get off the ground. It's like this momentum is so hard, but man, once you start to understand what levers, the PO, what levers to pull, leverage to use and how to scale and automate and create systems. Things just get easier and easier and easier. And I'm not saying they ever get easy, but they get easier than that really hard beginning part of your business. And I've definitely seen that with me going forward. I know a lot of people I talked to about the same so way to start this episode off, because foundation, we're talking about why, why do entrepreneurs need multiple streams of passive income?

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So let's first start by talking about why Fire Nation specifically needs to stop listening to traditional money advice from the media who by the way, are clueless about everything. And advisers in general, we've been taught

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Our whole lives, right? Like the smart thing to do, quote unquote, is to save everything, spend nothing, save it forever, put it away, take it away from your business even, right? So that someday you might have something cause you gamble at some crappy mutual fund. And the truth is that advice has never, ever worked. You know? And the worry is that I know that because 19 years ago I started as that traditional financial advisor, right? I was given that advice and then someone who was a business owner and they were even in real estate and things like that, they said, well, Chris, let me ask you how many of your clients are financially free off those plans? I said, well, none of them like, even the ones that retired, still worry about money. They're not really free. He's like, all right, Chris, we'll how about this?

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You guys as advisors, you guys should have it figured out over anybody. And I know there's guys in your office had been working since the late seventies. How many of you guys are financially free? Not off the commissions earning, but actually doing those investments. I said, none. He's like, well, there's your problem? You know, why are we following this crappy advice? And so, you know, I got away from that and I realized that no, like wealth has been built. Historically, if you look at the evidence, right. Which I like to look at, I like to look at what's really work real results. It's been entrepreneurs and it's been investors, right? Those are the people that actually do it. Not people that go and throw their money and crappy 401ks and things like that. It's about really buying into creating acceleration of your money, not just accumulating your mind,

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Fire Nation. So many wise words from Chris. And remember, this is the guy that has The Chris Miles Money Show. This is his third time on entrepreneurs on fire. So if you remember some of the other value bombs he's dropped, you know, he's here to speak truth in fire because we want to know this, Chris, what is required to actually be financially free. Like just not, you know, doing good and feeling good, but we're talking about financial freedom. What is required for that?

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Got to have past the streams of income coming in to replace or be able to cover your expenses. Right? You know, there's, there's this common myth out there. Maybe this is number two of common thing that I don't agree with. But many people will say, Hey, I'm reinvesting in my business, right? Like I'm reinvesting in it. Well, the truth is, if you keep spending money in your business, you're not reinvesting. You're just spending money. You don't have any profit and you got to have profit, right? You got to have extra surplus because otherwise if you keep reinvesting in it, which is great. I like re I like investing in my business too. And I want to get the best rate of return possible. And I do that. But you can't just keep doing that where it becomes a habit. People become habitually stuck in the rat race because they keep doing that.

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And so you need other streams of income coming in too, because Hey, what if somebody decides your business's quote unquote, non-essential like what we heard in 2020, right? And all that kind of junk, you know, that that kind of stuff can, can just cripple you, your family. And so you got to have those multiple streams of passive income coming in so that if any one stream of your income is jeopardized, especially if it's your business or your job, if that's jeopardized your main source of income, you got to make sure you have other streams of income, keeping you safe and keeping you free. And that's when you get that real freedom when you work, because you want to, not because you have to where you know that, Hey, everything I'm doing, my business is just gravy. This is just fun for me. Like, and I'll tell you, here's the secret.

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The more you don't need money, the more that you are free, the more that people want to pay you. And John, I know you understand this because you are in this situation, the more, make more money you make, the more you don't need people's money. They want to throw

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Money. Yeah. Who will that? Ann was interesting. Chris is they want to like give you stuff for free. It's like, I can finally afford to do stuff like fly places and stay in the best hotel rooms and all this stuff. But now people just want to give all those things to me for free too. Exactly. It's like, it's

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Like, man, I get so much crap. It's like, I mean, it's good stuff. I love it. And I, and I love that, but it's yeah. Like things just are attracted to more naturally. And that's where that real freedom comes in.

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One thing that I love about you, Chris, is your specific, like you really get down to the nitty gritty. You give really detailed, actionable advice. So share with us right now, the two streams of income that we need that we specifically need to free ourselves from our businesses. Yeah.

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There's two main ones, right? So one is what I referred to as residual income. So residual income is income. You get through your business. And the second one is passive income, which is income that comes from investments right outside of your business. Now I know John, you you're like the master of residual income in your business. I mean, you, you even show everybody what's, your residual income is coming in, right? Everybody needs to have some sort of income that comes in that doesn't require active effort. Right? You might manage it, but it's not meaning that you have to work your tail off each and every day. You know, whether this is online products or services, it's memberships or whatever it might be. You know, you've got sponsorships like with the podcast, right? You have things like that. Things that don't require you to have to keep working all the time, you can create a system and it pays you all the time.

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And that's residual income, by the way, joint ventures are awesome. Affiliate opportunities, things like that. That's, that's actually how I was able to retire. The first time. In 2006, I became financially independent. When I was like, wait, I've got enough income coming in, working a couple hours a week. You know, this is before Tim world for our workweek. I was living it because I had, you know, these connections of people that when I other people would ask me questions, they say, Hey, Chris, who do you know, that does blank. I would say, go talk to this person. And if I kept getting that question over and over, I thought maybe I should create an agreement with this person to say, Hey, if I send you business, do you have some sort of referral agreement and voila, next thing you know, you've got money coming in and you're not having to be the one actually fulfilling on that.

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Right? So that's residual streams of income. Passive streams is what you do to get your money, making money for you. And this is the thing I have a lot of fun with, right? This is what I've been able to do. Even when I retired the second time in 2016, where in addition to the business streams, then I start bringing things like real estate. You like passive income that comes from that, where I'm getting paid each and every month, you know, it could be different types of funds or whatever it might be. But you know, there's, there's so many cool ways that you can get your money paying you. So again, you, you work because you want to, not because you have,

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I love the phrase, money making money. And I just love the visualization and the reality of money-making money and Fire Nation. It is the honest to goodness truth, which is why we're going to be talking right now about where we can find the cash to create that passive income flow. Cause that's what a lot of people are saying. They're like, okay, I get that money makes money, but where's the money. Where's the cash. So where can we find it, that and other things coming up, as soon as we get back from thanking our sponsors, my ability to focus throughout the day in my sleep are my top priority. And when either of these things is out of whack, everything else is affected. That's why after figuring out so much of my restlessness and distractions were being caused by too much exposure to blue light, I started researching the best blue light blocking glasses.

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Three things you want to look at. Right? I call these the three gets, right. There's get lean, get liquid and get out. Right. So get lean. I mean, this in 2020 was kind of an easy practice for a lot of people because a lot of us did get leaner. I mean, especially when we couldn't travel or do some of the things that we normally do naturally, we were spending less. Right. And I'm not saying be cheap. Like I don't, I don't like that. Like I don't like when people just say, I'm going to cut out of everything out of my life. Like that's not the point. The point is, you know, what is it that I have in my business that I'm spending right now that maybe is not serving me? You know, maybe that marketing strategy isn't producing the results I want, maybe I should cut that out. You know, maybe that employee is not working as well as I want, you know, maybe at home like, Hey, maybe these subscriptions I've got, or, you know, maybe the things that I'm spending on right here, isn't really giving me what I want.

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You know, get rid of those things, get lean, get to the point where it's easy to be able to replace your expenses, right. And be able to replace the income that can pay for your expenses. So let's get lean, get liquid means let's have cash on hand because the one thing I didn't do early on in business is I never kept cash on hand. I kept quote unquote reinvesting in my business. Right. So I would just take enough money home to be able to take care of the family's needs, but I wouldn't have any surplus. So of course, when you have that little down month, all the stress comes in. You're like, ah, what am I going to do? I got to start hustling to make more sales or make more money. Right. And you never want to be in that place because then you start wreaking of business. Breath is I'd like to call it right.

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You just reek of desperation. And when you, when you stink so bad of desperation, people want to run away from you. And then you have to work three times as hard just to make the same amount of money. What if you just relaxed? So having cash on hand, right? Having that savings, having the money available, right. You know, is huge, you know, and that kinda goes along with getting out, you know, for example, you know, right now a lot of our houses are at all time highs and the value. If you own a home, you're looking at a house that actually has equity. Can we get the equity out? Can we get a line of credit to get that money out and available, to use, to be able to make more money for us? Do you have money tied up in the crappy stock market that doesn't make zero sense and you have zero control may look at like things that happen with GameStop.

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I mean, no, there's all kinds of manipulation happening and, and you have zero control as the average average person. So, you know, should you get money out of the market? Where could you get that money to put into your business? Or could you get that money to do something else that creates more passive income? So that's what I mean by getting liquid, get lean, get liquid in and get out, get that money available to you. So then you could turn around and make it work for you.

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I love that phrase, get lean, get liquid, get out because Fire Nation, this is something that we can all practically do right now in our lives to start taking a step forward. I mean, it is such a heartbreaker when you see somebody that just is like, oh my God, look at GameStop. It went from like three to 360. I need to get in before it goes up to a thousand and then it goes down to 50, 40 and below. And it's just like, oh man, cause it's just so brutal because that is money that they could have used on a very positive and proactive way. I mean, there are times in ways to invest in the stock market and other commodities and this and that for sure real estate, but to get going, this is the process. And let's talk about financial advisors because you know, if you would listen to the commercials and all of the pizazz, this pizazz that we have to work with, the financial advisor or we're done, is that true?

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Do we have to work with the financial advisor?

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Not at all. No. I mean most financial advisors, aren't really advisors. They're really just financial salespeople and suits, right? I mean, that's, that's what I was, you know, back in the early two thousands,

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By the way. Oh yeah. You're

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Basically selling the financial version of Mexican food, right? It's all the same ingredients. It's all, you know, meat, tortillas, you know, lettuce, tomatoes, salsa, it's all the same stuff. He just repackage it differently. It's basically just all mutual funds or insurance products. That's all it is. And, and you think that they're trying to give you advice to become free, but they really don't. They're just trying to sell you junk to throw your money into while those like the financial companies, they work for make more money than you do. Right. That's that's why like, but the problem is we've been trained that we have to have a financial advisor that we have to have somebody telling us what to do, but the truth is you're an entrepreneur, you're your own boss. You should be the boss of your own money. Cause nobody should care about your money more than you.

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So you take control of your own money. And I'm not saying you don't need some counsel from time to time, right. But you do not need the traditional financial advisor. That's going to just sell you, you know, sell you the same old Mexican food to financial advice.

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You, I look back and, you know, listen, I was clueless and then I was trained. And so I knew what I was trained, but I wasn't trained with the ways we're going to be best for my clients. I was trained in the ways we're going to be best for my employer. So I look back at like some of the, you know, front load mutual funds, I would be pushing on people, which I thought were fantastic is they're like, look at the returns that your clients get from this. And I was like, oh, that looks amazing. And I just didn't. I was, you know, mid twenties and I didn't know any better. And looking back, I'm like, oh my God, those were terrible. Just money eating funds. And it's, it's just sad that that exists out there. So you need to be listening to this type of content, Fire Nation. And let's start talking about an anti financial plan.

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It kind of sounds weird and anti financial plan, but let's talk about a Chris, what exactly is an anti financial plan? It's

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Really rejecting the same stuff. Like you just mentioned, right? I mean, you, you, what, even with the fees and you could get Vanguard funds or whatever, right? Like the truth is you're lucky to average over a long period of time, seven or 8%. And then the truth is after fees, you might make 6% a year if you're lucky, but at the same time again, inflation and everything else, you can never really save enough to become free in those kinds of plans. So an anti financial plan says, listen, we don't have to go that route. Let's go around it. Let's do. What's actually been proven, how do we invest better in our businesses? How do we invest better outside of those stock markets? You know, like for example, like I just closed out a couple of properties in Alabama right now. I don't manage these properties.

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I don't do anything with them. All I had to do is buy them, get the mortgages on them clothes. And then a property manager does all the work for me. I don't even know my tenants names. Right. But the cool thing is I'm making about a 13% cash on cash return every year. So it was like 80,000 out of pocket, but I'm making about 900 bucks a month, you know, and that's not including any appreciation tax benefits or that's tax-free and everything else. So that's kind of outside of the box type of things you do that financial advisors do not offer because they can't make a commission off of it. Right. And those are some of the best things. The things you can't that people can't make commissions on. That's some of the best stuff, you know, let me give you an example. One of my clients, a chiropractor down in San Diego, I mean, he's been like the ultimate saver, Dave Ramsey poster child, right?

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Like Dave Ramsey would like would be glowing, you know, and just how much he would love this guy, because this guy was, had paid off all of his debt other than his own mortgage and his investment property mortgage. But he was six years away from paying it off. And I said, I'm like, listen, let's look at it. Of course he's in California. So prices are horribly high. And the rents were verbally low, just horrible to try to make rentals work anywhere on the Western half of the United States. And so I said, listen, you've got over a half million of equity in this property, but you're only profiting 200 bucks a month. I can get the half million out. And even if we only make a net 10% on putting in other types of real estate away from California, that's 50,000 a year.

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And he had equity in his own home too. I said, listen, like you're paying way too much on the payment of your home. Let's refinance. We can even get cash out. You could have the same or less payment and again, make another 25,000 a year. So in essence, he could be making 75,000 more a year versus scrimping and saving, trying to pay off the mortgages in six years to only free up 4,000 a month. So that's the difference like 4,000 a month at six years, or do I want 6,000 a month this year? And then by the time I hit those six years, I'll be over a hundred thousand a year of passive income. I mean, that's, that's, that's real freedom when you have that profit and that money coming in. That's where the stress is there. It's not about the mortgage payment or the mortgage balance, even it's it's about how much extra cash you have coming in above and beyond what you need.

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The more you have, the more freedom you experience. And they're like, that is a stuff that financial advisors don't do. And that's why you got to go the anti financial route.

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Chris you've given us a ton of advice today, a lot to think about by the way. And hopefully some people in the audience are already thinking about unwinding, certain things that they're currently in right now, so that they can go the anti financial plan route. What's the one takeaway you really want to make sure Fire Nation gets, then share the best way that we can connect with you to learn more about what you have going on. And then we'll say goodbye.

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You know, the biggest thing I want to understand is that in business do not get caught in the entrepreneur trap where you really don't have a job. You don't have a business that you own, you have a job and you, you might make millions of millions dollars in that business. But if that business were to shut down now and you're in trouble, then that's something to be aware of, right? You need multiple streams of income. And there's lots of hope to be able to create that, create that freedom and seriously live the life that you dreamed as an entrepreneur in the first place,

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Fire Nation. You're the average of the five people you spend the most time with. And hello, you've been hanging out with CM and JLD today. So keep up that heat and Chris where's foundation to learn more about us.

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You know, you can go to my website, MoneyRipples.com. That's MONEYRIPPLES.com. Or like you said, at the beginning of the show, you can just go to my web, my podcast, The Chris Miles Money Show

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Fire Nation head over to EOFire.com type Chris in the search bar, because this is not his first episode on entrepreneurs on fire. You can listen to this episode again in the prior two as well, value bombs were dropped on each and every one of them. And Chris, thank you for sharing your truth, your knowledge, your value with Fire Nation today, for that, we salute you and we will catch you on the flip side. Hey, Fire Nation today's value bond content was brought to you by Chris and I have identified over the years that successful entrepreneurs that are productive, they're disciplined, they're focused, which is why I created the mastery journal. It is a gorgeous full of the journal that will ensure that you master productivity, discipline and focus in 100 days. It is my best work ever while, at least until The Common Path to Uncommon Success, but don't tell the mastery journal, he'll get jealous.

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